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Advice needed please

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Sandra L B, Sep 7, 2020.

  1. Sandra L B

    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Resin bound driveway breaking up. Contractor wont come and repair. Have reported him to trading standards. Can a new resin bound driveway be laid over existing one. Ant advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Norm Member Registered Contractor

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    Sorry to hear that Sandra. Unfortunately if the existing driveway is breaking up it needs taking up

    there is a saying in our industry. It’s only as good as it’s base. If the base is falling apart it’s going to take the surface with it
     
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    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Thanks for replying its appreciated
     
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    Alan Active Member Registered Contractor

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    Would agree with @Norm Sandra
    Where are you based? We might be able to point you in the direction of a good contractor
     
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    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Thanks for replying. I live in stockport. Any recommendations you can give would be great thanks
     
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    Tim Active Member Registered Contractor

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    Agree
     
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    Karl Member Registered

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    Start again I’m afraid
     
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    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Have had some companies come round to give quotes. Some advise digging it all out, including tarmac base, others say they can just remove the resin and relay new resin on tarmac base. What would be the best thing to do?
     
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    GregT Member Registered Contractor

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    Dig out a reinstatement is always best but that clearly comes with a lot more cost

    100% the poorly laid resin bound needs to come up but if the tarmac or base is good condition it might not need taking up.

    Would be difficult for the contractors to make an assessment without seeing the underlying tarmac
     
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    Alan Active Member Registered Contractor

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    We always push for full dig out so we can fully guarantee the entire system

    will do overlay if customer insists but we can’t offer a guarantee if it’s not our base
     
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    Mark Almond Well-Known Member TalkResin+ Supplier Registered

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    Good morning Sandra,

    I’m very sorry to hear about the problems you are having. The advice provided is spot on and no reputable installer would offer a guarantee on overlaying the existing base. There is simply no way to know what quality of base they would be overlaying and if the initial resin install was of a poor quality then there is every reason to assume the base is the same.

    If you know the manufacturer of the resin originally used you could try contacting them. We would certainly want to know if a company we supplied had been ripping customers off and would also do all we can to help the customer get what they paid for.

    I would add that you should carefully check the credentials of the companies providing estimated for repairs. Are they a member of this community? Are they a VAT registered company with a trading history? Can they show you a local installation completed over twelve months ago?

    If they can answer yes to all three of those questions then you should be ok. If you still have any doubts you can ask the following:


    At what depth will the resin be installed? The ideal answer should be greater than 15mm.

    Ask to see a safety data sheet for the resin ‘B’ component. In section 3.2 of the data sheet a UV stable product will only list Aliphatic and Hexamethylene Di-Isocyanates. A non-UV stable product will list Diphenyl Methane Di-Isocyanate.

    You have certainly come to the right place for advice and a TalkResin member would be the ideal company to use.

    Best of luck!
     
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    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Thank you for your informed advice
    I will def take it on board when deciding who to choose
     
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    Thomas Member Registered Contractor

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    Well done Mark great comments
     
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    Sandra L B New Member Registered Registered

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    Just an update. A company have said they will scrape off the resin. Re do the brick work no problem. The tarmac base is clearly visible due to resin breaking up. The guy is happy from what he can see of the base, but will reavaluate once all resin is removed. My only concern is he is saying a surveyor will come round and check everything before work starts. Is this necessary, or is he just trying to get extra money off me. Obviously having been bitten once I am now extremely cautious and suspicious of being made a mug of twice, and clearly dont want to be throwing good money away yet again. Thanks again for all your responses
     
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    Alan Active Member Registered Contractor

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    Guess they’re just doing their due diligence but if they say they will evaluate once the resin up, not sure what the surveyor is bringing additionally to the table?

    It really is a tough one, get some pictures uploaded once the resin has been taken up
     
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    Thank you for your response, its greatly appreciated
     
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    Ben Member Registered Contractor

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    They definitely won’t be able to tell if the tarmac is any good without taking up all the resin bound
    (Without proper core test)
     
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    Mark Almond Well-Known Member TalkResin+ Supplier Registered

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    I am certainly not suggesting that this is wrong or that it is an attempt to add unnecessary costs however I am a little surprised that a surveyor would be visiting site. Repairing a resin driveway doesn’t seem to fall under the remit of a construction project requiring an independent survey unless the installer has specific concerns regarding boundary lines or drainage that could affect neighbouring properties? A skilled, experienced bound resin installer is far better placed to assess the site than an independent surveyor.

    Regardless, if the cost of such a survey is built in to the price and the installer remains competitive then I can’t see an issue with this other than it being perhaps a little more excessive than due-diligence.
     
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    Thanks Ben
     
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    Thanks Mark
     

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